Were now getting into some fairly heavy physics, but as a shooter, and especially a hunter, you need to remember that a bullet will slow downrange. I finally settled on the .380acp for awhile because the size of the handguns matched my older 22lr Handgun. I know the kimber is a little bit bigger but from what I can tell not a noticeable difference because the sig comes with an extended clip with a finger grip on it which you would definitely want if you didnt want your little finger to hang off the bottom. Well, accuracy can be paramount. What is best for competition use? The upward recoil maybe lesser but 9mm has a twisting recoil motion. If a higher capacity magazine (15) might be needed (such as law enforcement), go with the 9mm. Now to the .45 issue: one patient was shot in the back of the leg with a .45 hydro shock round mid way up the leg which lodged in the back of the knee. 50%? The LaserLyte is bore set low to compensate up to 300 yds. is go to a range and try both. Now you must shout for him to get down/leave, because your selected ammunition could possibly over penetrate and harm someone in another room, and hope the situation doesn't escalate to him reacting in instinctive action by charging or shooting at you. Originally designed by Austrian firearm designer Georg Luger in 1901, [6] it is widely considered the most popular handgun and submachine gun cartridge due to its low cost and extensive availability. If Im going for a fragmentation round, give me a .357 SIG from Liberty Civil defense at 2,300 FPS. I had the only 45. The .45 stopped them in their tracks. They needed a standard that could be applied to everyone - not what was best per person. Agreed. Then again, if penetration through a bedroom door, heavy jacket, glass, etc your .45 won't make it to the target, so much to think about! 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But lets not forget the same developments in HP ammo that allowed 9mm to catch up to .45 ACP FMJ also allowed .45 ACP HP to beef up. Using this reasoning, you really dont lose much between a pocket gun like the Glock 43 and a full-size Glock 34. Even if you use only factory and clock the loads, this is not news. And the proof he show. Lend-lease conditions were allegedly exorbitant but the US manufacturing base was undeniably a godsend), plus some of the other margins you refer to were, frankly, too close to argue, so I wont even try. Just not before he stabs you to death. Capacity is a good factor to concern as long as rounds are selectively placed otherwise is just becomes another spray and part scenario. If the bullet is traveling slowly, it will generally drop sooner, like the tossed ball; if it is hurled with speed, like the fastball, it will maintain a straight trajectory. Outstanding. So instead of boasting about something that never happened, recognize actual achievements like the almost unimaginable amount of vehicles weapons ammunition & food that we produced & ferried across the Atlantic to Pacific support and supply all of the Allies and our seemingly miraculous (midway) battles w/ Imperial Japan. 11k plains, 6k tanks, 300k trucks, and 3 million tons of food were sent by the USA to the USSR. You are legally responsible for every round that leaves your weapon! But if both of these two are more than your are able to shoot comfortably, consider the 380. A group of people tried that, and he killed them all, I think he killed three men with a .22 rifle. Adrenaline is not the deterrent you make it out to be, some people actually perform better when "amped up" so maybe YOU would be would be useless but you have no right to comment on anyone but yourself. I expect our understanding of how bullets cause damage will evolve as well. I have the M&P Shied, Glock 30. of energy. All the comments are great. I myself started out carrying a 22.lr handgun because it was what I shot since I was a kid. The link is entitled to be wrong lol, the capacity of 9mm the distance and all is great . You can not spell and have no idea what punctuation is. The Federal 115-grain 9mm ammo has a muzzle velocity of 1,180 fps, while the larger bullet is propelled at 1,000 fps. If you are special forces and you've resorted to using your pistol something has gone wrong. That's more foolishness. the heavy slow 45 stays in the body and delivers most of its energy to it. My practice is Steel Challenge for about 14 years + USPSA and Zombie. While modern ammo allows a 9mm to reliable penetrate sufficiently and expand to over .6, the 45 can now reliably penetrate sufficiently and expand to over 3/4 of an inch. "The Judge". One excellent example would be the Lehigh Defense max expansion loads in either caliber. Happily, I have some larger mags which were purchased prior to the 10+ ban, so are 'grandfathered' in! .45 is, by nature, subsonic. Equipped with a suppressor, they make ideal home defense weapons and they are less likely to over-penetrate. Also, the statement in this article regarding that 9mm's are more comfortable and lighter I feel is only meagerly correct. There is absolutely nothing more effective. Not worth a flip as a carry gun unless one is more Shaq sized than me but for home defense, it works very well. Additionally, the length of the barrel used in testing can have a major impact in the results. As mentioned the simple fact is that the recoil of a 9mm is so much more manageable than a .45 which I call 'hand cannons'. Recoil isnt an issue in a Glock and my G30 has out shot a few custom guns. Most situations are going to involve you protecting/defending yourself with others in the background. I went along with more powerful is more effectiv and broke hammer struts on two N frames aka back to S&W factory. If anything, it's the opposite. If YOU Do!! You said: "With a .45 you can hit him anywhere, even in the arm or shoulder, and you're going to knock him down. BTW, I like the 9mm and .45 pretty much equally and have both calibers. In dry practice, make it a habit to take a step to the left or right as the draw is occurring. I like the beef of an ACP. I'm citing experience, something you clearly lack. It feels good in the hand, is built like a tank, and definitely a 'cool' looking piece. You shouldnt be shooting in long distance situations if its self defense situation. Even on the Eastern front, a large part of how the USSR was able to keep fighting was because of American lend-lease. If a DOE, were there any significant interactions? Last time I saw the statistics on it, most domestic self defense gun fights occur in 6 or less feet. Thank you, however for the work on showcasing the loadsRead more . Somewhere between the barrel lengths of 4.4 in which i think is redundant for a P.C.C. Modern .45 acp is overkill against most targets (which isn't a bad thing in itself, but better to have the extra capacity if you don't really have to trade a significant reduction in lethality for it). I also like 9 millimeter Luger as an alternative long gun round over .22 Long Rifle as recoil sensitive people can shoot this and do more damage. Joe Miller's Navy instructor was just another of those guys who spread myths based in sentimentality instead of facts. The gun is a S&W mdel 39 in 9mm with a 4" barrel. But the idea that the .45 will stop a man in his tracks no matter where you shoot him is preposterous. Hi Wyatt, not trying to be a jerk here. At a 30% hit rate during actual combat (due to adrenaline and urgency of quickness) add in a fall rate like no other (45) and it drops to 20%. That is simply bologne. And used on drugged up people both were effective. You ask why? There are benefits for every caliber but one thing is for sure a bigger hole yields more blood loss quicker . The G30 is my EDC, the G36 is in my car's glove compartment. Actually, the US & the West generally helped the Russians defeat Germany. Try firing one off indoors in the dark with no ear protection. However, how about the hollow point bullets that's suppose to stop and explode once they enter the body.Is that a myth or not? Best advice ever. A .45 is good for inside the home. Going to the store I take my 9 with 124 gr hst. That is the EXCEPTION!! I totally agree with the author. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. that is much easier to deal with. Fat & slow or snappy & whimpy Not much of a choice. One other thing of interest is that in the Buckeye Firearms study both velocity and mass increase accuracy, but again, accuracy favors calibers that can excel and one or both of these things. 45 auto shells cost more too. YouTube - Store data on what videos from YouTube the user has seen - 2. Not always which round is bigger, faster, more powerful!!!! Well I redid the math, and 230 gr @ 835fps is slightly less, but essentially the equivalent in energy to 124gr @ 1150fps. Both are valid points and very understandable reasons to prefer one over the other. I would prefer to ha ve more rounds just in case. Pew Pew needs to talk to professionals rather than giving amateur opinions. Hand-Picked Daily GUN DEALS, and Exclusive Coupons Codes >>>. Just keep pulling the trigger. I once read an account by someone who shot an intruder at close range with a shotgun. We are now restricted to 10 or less rounds in the mag here in Washington State. my_old_glock Registered These three pistols offered me a large variance of length along with the consistency of rifling type and 1:9.84 twist rate. I've done some research on the differences regarding handguns, but now I'm getting a little confused. Although higher velocity projectiles always generate more kinetic energy they clearly do not produce deeper penetration, and when the velocities reach the levels common to today's magnums, the increases in velocity result in significantly reduced penetration. The 9mm generally comes in loads of between 88-147 grain. When you actually test the loads on living breathing targets (like the Strasbourg test) , that (to me) is the best indicator. You are welcome to your opinions, but the facts are indisputable. Youre alluding to it but youve cited nothing My 9mm is def better carrying size, 45 is things-that-go-bump-in-the-night standby. All this being said, get good with whatever you get, then, just go with. 45 ACP Ballistics Well written article. I don't think one is better than the other either. He wrote: The FBI and many police departments are going back to the 9mm for one reason and one reason only its easier to qualify with a 9mm. The 9mm is more ideal for outside carry. :), Here's an old lady's take on it: the best gun/caliber is what YOU shoot best. https://ammo.com/articles/handgun-wounding-factors-guide Let me start out by saying that the biggest mistake that most people make is taking a black-and-white stance on the .45 ACP and 9mm. Because if fifty extra FPS is negligible, then having a g34 over a 19 really is for sight radius only and the need for more velocity really doesnt mean much for self defense. The best ergonomics, the feel of the recoil, and let's not forget about how gorgeous it is! Must It is a dangerous world, much more than most believe. ANYONE who says in a civilian encounter they can end it in 3 shots is either a psychopath, a liar, or never been in a SHTF scenario. The 9x19mm allows you to make more holes, from a standard pistol, than a .45 caliber pistol [albeit only 2-4 more rounds in the 9mm]. The 9mm carbine is rapidly replacing the 12-gauge shotgun in many areas of law enforcement, because it holds more ammunition, makes hits more easily, and has negligible recoil. That said -- memes are really meant to be funny and normally tongue-in-cheek :). BS! The .357 SIG Liberty does it with its rifle like speeds dumping its energy immediately on target and making temporary wound cavity matter. Bye, Karl. The U.S. Navy was the last branch of service to go to the 9mm. But my favorate is 45acp. I found this interesting as I was expecting certain loads to perform better in certain barrel lengths. Capacity is not an issue because, I live in the DPRC (Democratic Peoples Republic of California). For example, American Eagle makes 9mm full-metal jacket rounds with 115-grain bullets and 147-grain bullets. Most people I know use hollow points as they tend to have less penetration through walls and the human body but leave aone nasty show stopping wound What is a "safer" 9mm ammo for home protection, one with similar (or if possible less) penetration risk vs. the average .45 ammo? No, youre not . The .357 magnum is definitely a meat eater, and the .44 magnum is a meat shredder. The 919mm Parabellum (also known as 9mm Parabellum or 9mm Luger or simply 9mm) is a rimless, tapered firearms cartridge . Take all this with a pinch of salt, I'm no expert. Not to mention the permanent fragmentation wounds are nasty in themselves. Adam, Eve (before they sinned), and the Lord Jesus Christ (Who never sinned.) Hornady has an XTP +P 135gr that is an excellent design. Operational goals dictate which weapon to carry. Same old crap different day. @Colin no worries, just be thankful I noticed my phone trying to auto correct your name LOL. I'll stay with my 45. I'll take 10 "flying ashtrays" over the puny 9mm anytime. This cookie, set by YouTube, registers a unique ID to store data on what videos from YouTube the user has seen. Engagements where distance and volume of fire are important, 9mm has the advantage. Many handgun enthusiasts believe that bigger is, in fact, better and love everything that the .45 ACP has to offer. I was one of those folks in the military in the 80's that had a 45 side-arm, so used to it. Firing the 9mm at the range was fun, then I fired the .45had to peel the smile off of my face. We can hit a moving target at 75 yards away. You'll freeze. And, lighter projectiles shed velocity faster than heavier projectiles. When I was in we still carried the Colt 1911 .45. I want harm for nobody, and especially me and mine, too. My test pistols came in the uniform shape of a Glock 43 (3.39), Glock 19 (4), and Glock 34 (5.3). "ANY GUN will do!! Americas oldest Second Amendment News outlet. He now carries a S&W M&P Shield like mine, or a Glock 19. Any high penetration rounds for handguns beyond fmj are usually considered as "armor piercing" and therefore illegal in the us. Feel free to cite your real world experience that you keep vaguely referring to. For one after police and FBI started using back 9mm amount of ammo that burned for arrested increased almost by 50%. Those who prefer lightweight 9mm projectiles enjoy lower recoil; If you select heavier bullets benefit from deeper penetration of the target. The extension mag wrapped allows for a 'golf grip' & more leverage to handle recoil. The FPS isn't about dodging the bullet, that would be ridiculous, as you pointed out. How can the 9mm "have the same wound tracks as a .45 ACP" when the .45 expands to an inch diameter? black powder compared to 22, or maybe Im just 45 spoiled! Honestly, they don't really rely on pistols its mostly a last resort type of weapon. The pistol has a dropleg tactical holster that holds 4 extra 9RD mags. Both 9mm and .45 ACP workjust personal preference, imo. In the majority of the states, anything more than 2 rounds down range puts in in the pin for excessive force! During the EVAC of Vietnam, one VC was dusted with a .45 to the shoulder and he was DRTdead right there. 3. They couldn't even handle 40 S&Was. Muzzle Velocity ft/sec. You have seconds literally to get your gun on to the bear. We'll only use the information provided according to our privacy policy. If you are going to use that short of a barreled P.C.C. Luger presented his new round to both Great Britain and the U.S. before it was adopted by the Imperial German Navy in 1904 and the German Army four years later. Ill be anxiously waiting to hear your findings. While a 9mm is discussing the situation A 45ACP ends the Debate..with prejudice. HANDGUN BALLISTICS. Only because many pokice depts as hiring more and more females. LEOs have completely different considerations. If you have to shoot, common wisdom says shoot to kill, worry about it afterwards. But I think 9 millimeter Luger is a better carbine round over .45 Auto. Will still have a long-range, full length rifle or carbine slung over my shoulder tooWhy compromise when it comes down to multiple enemies wanting you dead or wanting to taste your brain? Muzzle Energy. Personalize your experience. This article has a ton of ballistic coefficient details but in general, the higher the number, the more aerodynamic it is. It gives perspective from both sides. Your 45 and your 9mm will both go clear through the walls in your house. My sub compact is 9mm. measured 12 feet from the gun's muzzle. And 357 magnum also. Alternatively, the 9mms stopping power and smaller design make it ideal for open and concealed carry. We hate SPAM and promise to keep your email address safe. Back in the day, there was a revolver chambered in .600 Nitro Express. just saying. In fact, unlike the other calibers in this study, over half of the 9mm rounds from the 1800 bodies involved in shootings were FMJ. Working with a custom 7mm Remington Magnum and 175-grain Nosler AccuBonds, I found wonderful accuracyonly to find that the muzzle velocity was slightly more than 2,500 fps instead of the 2,925 fps it should have generated. The truth is somewhere in the middle; From weekend plinkers to elite rifle competitors, understanding the basics of muzzle velocity is an essential part of gun ownership and marksmanship. Unfortunately I sense America is way beyond that point. Believe it or not, hours of chronograph work and loading magazines can get exhausting. This is why K.E. Some people prefer the heavier feel of a .45 ACP, while others find the light and slim nature of the 9mm easier to use. chambered in .400 Corbon gives me the power of a 10mm in a 45 ACP case size. I like the Bodyguard, unlike a lot of people. My experience has led me to the same conclusion. Typical 9mm muzzle velocity can range from 950 fps to over 1,500 fps depending on the grain and load of the round. NYPD study had their officers at 18% accuracy in gunfights. Even though this is supposed to be an excellent round, with great expansion in gelatin, this bullet had almost zero expansion. FMJ loads offer a rigid design for smooth penetration that doesn't deform on impact. I am a Brit who has lived in the US for fourty years now. Regarding protection against tyranny, every empire in history has fallen (you know that as well as any). 9x19mm Parabellum is by far the most popular handgun cartridge for self-defense in the world. FWIW, I find the 45 recoil is "smoother", whereas 9 & 40 seem to be "sharper", making the muzzle flip harder to recover from. This is criminal. Nothing against the 9mm, I own several, for the range, not for carry. Correct. In the real world a single hit with a .45 will stop him." CZ Evo carbine & pistol, a Mac 1911 45 & many others. Now this is just me you pointed out several factors for both weapons and I agree it's to ones mind set on which weapon feels right in your hand. Good day, Karl. Basically, I believe with smaller bores you need to make use of their speeds and get a temporary wound cavity that matters (to make up for its smaller permanent wound cavity). YouTube sets this cookie to store the video preferences of the user using embedded YouTube video. So therefore if you had a smallish gun with 6+1, you'd be covered. Great weapon! Ad & Review Requests I would like to add that the FBI test comparisons that are referred to are only half the test. its a good idea to review any state and local laws before buying a 9mm if youre set on having a 15+1 capacity gun. Case: Brass. Well, when it comes to home defense, the .45 ACP does hold, Well, this might rock your world but I recommend getting one of each, While there are a number of compact .45 ACP models on the market, as a general rule, you can expect the 9mm to be more, Ultimately, both calibers are great to have. Full sized .45 or .50 for when you really mean 'permanent' and final business and .300 BLK fmj rounds through a sbr (I know, tsk, tsk) or tactical pistola for 1200-1300 fps during a full blown war or zombie apocalypse! you can not have any mags that hold more then 10 rounds, so I had to buy 10 round mags for the model 59 and at the same time I found 10 round ags for the m1991A. No more mild steel targets to shoot at, it completely deformed Skeet shooting and duck hunting are his all-time favorite hobbies, but he's more than ready to talk your ear off about collecting and sport shooting as well. Sit down, you sound dumb. There has to be an overall advantage in close to medium range combat. Momentum equals mass times velocity. I know that if my threat has consumed a narcotic I may have to fire my 9mm several times to stop the threat but if I hit my target with my .45acp the threat will be on the ground before it realizes that it has been hit. Not sure which one is best for you? I went with the 45 Smith&Weston MP2 Shield that is good foe me. But after doing extensive research I've come to the conclusion that the ultimate home defense gun other than a 12 gauge would be a 45 pistol like the CMMG Banshee with a suppressor. Very informative article! I like both.. Although both mass and velocity contribute to the muzzle energy, the muzzle energy is proportional to the mass while proportional to the square of the velocity. Currently i own no 45,s. There really isnt any hydrostatic shock to speak of at handgun cartridge velocities to begin with. All the best from a small, cold island! I carry a Glock 30 concealed . The FNX 45T and a few others hold around 15 rounds. What is the best Hollow Points for a Glock 19? The 9mm features some interesting advantages. Once you're done watching YouTube videos, come back when you have more real world experience. Thats half an in bigger then the 9mm? But if cost IS an issue, then a well placed shot with a high grain 9mm FMJ is better than a poorly placed .45what I mean is that you have to get your time in at the range. A range instructor at Camp Pendleton once told me most would-be handgun shooters would be more effective hurling the pistol itself at the enemy rather than trying to aim and fire it. 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